Friday, April 13, 2007

Lab assholes, continued.

Am I the only one who thinks it's tacky when someone uses their turn at journal club to present their own work?

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posted by Ms.PhD @ 10:41 AM   11 comments

11 Comments:

At 12:57 PM, Blogger PonderingFool said...

Tacky? How about defeating the purpose of journal club. What an egocentric twit.

 
At 1:05 PM, Blogger Random Scientist said...

Yes, I agree with you..Its acceptable to present ideas that you have about future work so that it gets people interested as well you get great input. But presenting your work as it is doesnt serve the purpose of Journal Club ( reviewing, criticizing and learning from recent articles in the literature).

 
At 1:10 PM, Blogger DrOtter said...

Well, you'd be totally opening up yourself to being ripped to shreds if you did that in our journal club.

But it isn't cool. Rather arrogant really.

 
At 4:26 PM, Blogger v./ said...

More than tacky, it's a lack of respect! I have a fellow grad student who takes advantage of any situation available (journal club, department seminar, special talks) to brag about his work and to comment on his issues/problems...

 
At 5:11 PM, Blogger Bill Hooker said...

I've never seen that done... perhaps because all the journal clubs I've attended have been occasions for gleeful spite and venomous merrymaking at the hapless (because absent!) author's expense. I don't think I'd ever put one of my papers up -- unless I was about to submit it, and wanted to see the worst any reviewers could possibly do to it.

 
At 8:43 PM, Blogger Breena Ronan said...

Hilarious! Maybe if you asked everyone, "Hey, I know it's not what we normally do, but I could really use some feedback on this..."

 
At 6:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, you are not the only one.
Cripes. What a wanker.

 
At 1:02 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

I've never seen that before! Just wanted to drop a note and say how much I enjoy your blog. I'm also a miserable post doc (too cowardly to blog about it) and I take solace in the fact that I'm not alone out there. Just seems like everyone around me loves living in the lab and not having a life. Makes me feel isolated a lot. Thank you for reminding me I'm not alone! Stay the course!

 
At 2:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could someone post a short description of the purpose and activities of a 'Journal Club'? I'm obliged.
- a prof in England

 
At 2:10 PM, Blogger Bill Hooker said...

This also, sadly, occurs to me: who is going to go on to be a PI, a institute director, a big shot? Who do we, as a community, reward with funding and power? The self-centered jerk who presents his own stuff at a damn journal club, that's who.

Someone whose self-regard is so enormous and whose competitive urge so out of control that he takes every opportunity to further his own agenda, probably without even realizing and certainly without caring that it's inappropriate, is *exactly* the kind of person who is rewarded and promoted in the current system.

Wanna be a big shot? Hell, wanna be modestly successful? Be that asshole.

The other option is to try to change the system, but then you must be prepared to fail and be shoved aside -- which is why so many more take the asshole route.

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger Jenny F. Scientist said...

Yaaar. Totally not okay.

I once presented the NSF and NAS reports for journal club. Is there an article on arrogant twats that you could sneak in? :)

 

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