Dear other readers,
I know you're still out there, despite the embittered industry trolls who seem to hijack every third post.
I promise to try not to get dragged into those debates anymore, because I really don't care what those people think about who I am or what I should do with my life.
To a couple of people who send kindly worded yet still insulting advice, I appreciate that you at least try to word it kindly. But you'll excuse me if I continue to ignore it.
posted by Ms.PhD @ 10:48 AM
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6 Comments:
I'm still here. I can't believe the comments you get. I particularly enjoyed the various suggestions for medication that you whould take to deal with the assholes in everyday life.
So you get angry on blog. Good. You still care enough to get angry about the crap you have to deal with. You still care enough to be bothered. People criticize anger like it is a bad thing. It isn't, and at least getting it out in a blog post is getting it out of your system to some degree. That's healthy. There we go then, expressing anger and negative emotions is healthy. We don't all need medication for healthy self expression.
Some people have personalities more suitable to industry. They don't understand those of us who couldn't tolerate it. It must be hard wired into the brain somewhere. I just can't even consider industry. I wont. I'd sooner teach high school or work bankers hours and do what I care about with the life I'd suddenly have. I'm sure some people will think I'm misguided but that's just the way it is. I know myself, as you know yourself, and somethings are just certian.
Anyway, I'm sorry you have to deal with this, and people who value famous guy's opinion over decent helpful advice from you. I hope that one day you are famous science woman handing out the same useful advice.
"embittered industry trolls" You realize that makes no sense.
"who seem to hijack every third post." How can the posts be hijacked when you filter and choose the comments that get posted?
"I really don't care what those people think about who I am or what I should do with my life" Break out the violin.
I think I have just lost interest in your blog after having read it for over a year. I so wanted to see how the drama ends. I had hope for you.
Count me in as another dissappointed lurker. I am giving up on this blog. I thought YFS would be about making the changes in her life to be happy. Instead she just complains and vents, but doesn't consider other options in her life.
Some people enjoy being martyrs.
been there.. done that.. I'm outta here... have a nice.. err "life" if that's what you want to call it!
Hey Ms. PhD,
I'm a longtime reader who might be a bit more balanced in my views of industry vs. academia. I've appreciated your insights into postdoc/academic life, and agree with some of what you say (I'm a postdoc by the way, and have never worked in industry). But I think you strike a nerve with "industry trolls" when you constantly belittle their career choice. You make it seem as if they are somehow less than you because they "work nine to five", don't run their own schedules, have to follow rules and regulations, etc. You are the epitome of the academic who looks down on everyone else in the world because you think what you do is so much more cerebral and important than everyone else. What is wrong with working "bankers hours" (propter doc's words, not yours)? Do you never want kids? Do you think if you have them, you'll be able to work 80 hours per week? Well, maybe, but if so good luck when they need therapy because you were never there for them growing up. People make concessions all of the time. You choose to make crappy wages, work long hours, and get little respect because you want the freedom to do your own science. Alternatively, others choose to have a slightly more structured job in order to make enough money to live well/have families/take vacations etc. Maybe you should have some empathy, instead of belittling those who live that way.
Yup, still here. The comments make good comedy though -- I like the cranky and bitter comments complaining about you being cranky and bitter.
I'm still here too. And can't believe how RUDE people feel they can be when they post as anonymous.
As has been discussed elsewhere recently, emotional women = bad, assertive men = fine. I'm really really tired of my (male) colleague who shouts at people, invades their space (e.g. stands in the doorway to my office with his arm across the opening whilst commenting loudly on how much he hates something I did, and he's not a small man), threatens to quit constantly being described as 'caring about his research' when I'm continually told that I'm too dramatic or totally inappropriate - for such offenses as disagreeing with someone in a meeting and repeating politely that I still disagreed when they spoke over me - and I didn't even raise my voice.
Your blog and others remind me that it ISN'T JUST ME - there's a community here who are struggling with the same things. With a love of science, even (shock horror) science which won't earn masses of money in the next few years, a vision for a fairer academy, an independent personality (I'm with Propter Doc on the personality thing - although I'd rather pack bags in a supermarket than teach High School!), and a determination to keep trying just a little longer... Thanks for being here.
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